Uwe Rosler’s Grandad Mk XXVII

 

 

MVF 10 Years    27th April 2003    RIP    Not forgotten  

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618 thoughts on “Uwe Rosler’s Grandad Mk XXVII

  1. Bluealf:
    Another name from Alphs long list of wants.

    City-look-Lazio-defender-Stefan-Radu-replace-Lescott.

    I thought he was a left back and sharing that job with AK when we bought him from Lazio, how about we swap them back lol

    I like Radu a lot Balfers. He’s more a ‘Valers’ criteria LB than a wing back, he defends very well and plays CH competently when needs be. He didn’t ‘share’ the LB role at Lazio, he replaced AK at LB and AK was moved into left side midfield where he excelled. That may have said more about La Liga a than it says of AK, a player who hasn’t lived up to the expectation and hype when he arrived for too high a fee, but who, nevertheless (IMO) doesn’t deserve all of the invective that has been heaped on him. If I were him I certainly wouldn’t stay at a club whose fans treat him as ours have and I expect him to leave. Radu would be an excellent replacement and put some real pressure on Gael Clichy to raise his game.

    I don’t thin AK will go back to Lazio, they haven’t the funds to pay the sort of money we would want (around £10m) or the sort of wages that AK is on, added to which he is highly regarded in Italy with Milan & Inter allegedly sniffing around.

    With Lescott entering the last year of his contract, and keen to get a club where he is first choice, Radu could be the answer to providing cover for Nastasic and competition for Clichy. With both Les and Kolo Toure off the books we would still need another top class CH, but I’d see this as a positive strengthening of the side. I’m all for seeing more incisive, attacking football with more pace and less dallying on the ball, but the starting point for that isn’t so much another slack hand full of creative players, it’s a rock solid defence to provide the launch pad.

    Alph

  2. Rumours that Steve Bruce has got “Big Pants”………….
    Pantylimon to Hull

  3. Yeah – several commentators have passed er, comment on how good this guy is. One said “If you’re a City director responsible for signing players – DON’T mess about. Get him. There aren’t many kids who can play football like this guy. Mess about and lose him and you’ll forever regret it”

  4. The Kippax Street Kid:
    Yay!

    Now when’s Isco signing?

    Get him and make my day Pellers!
    I’ve wanted him on board since I saw him play for Valencia age about 19 a couple of years ago. He scored and had a couple of assists, looked terrificly assured for one so young.
    Seen him several times since, he’s a real gem.

    ALph

  5. Bluealf: If they are idiotic enough to not to pay him even at the last minute to gain a few million in compensation then they would be even worse than us when it comes to football business sense.

    I think if he is being paid, City have to compensate Malaga and they have have to pay off Pellegrini which would cost them more… Something like that. They are pretty skint and can’t afford it.
    But yeh , young players should always include a sell on clause, even more so if you developed them from a kid.

  6. bell boy: Malaga haven’t paid him for 2 Months, if it goes to 3 he can walk away.
    This gets rid of all the compensation situation and could be a good thing for all concerned.

    If they are idiotic enough to not to pay him even at the last minute to gain a few million in compensation then they would be even worse than us when it comes to football business sense.

    Exhibit A = Big Phil, loaned out with an agreed fee but then instantly sold on for huge profit, really should have had a sell on fee included at the very least.

  7. A lot of paper talk of a Barry out to either Spurs or Stoke for 3.5 or 4 million.

    Would you accept this ?

    Last year of contract another 100k wages saved for a season, I think I would drive him to his next medical myself.

  8. bell boy: Possible explaination of the Pellegrini delay.
    Malaga haven’t paid him for 2 Months, if it goes to 3 he can walk away.
    This gets rid of all the compensation situation and could be a good thing for all concerned.

    Nice to see us taking the piss for a change eh bellers
    Grin Grin Grin

    Mind you if we go back to them for Isco we better have the boy firmly on side (like Fabregas and Barca) or they’ll make us pay!

    Alph

  9. bell boy:

    Re the wage restructuring.
    This was mooted a while back that we would move towards performance related bonuses, PRP, making up a higher proportion of pay than before.
    This, if done correctly, could be a very good thing.
    However, I doubt it will play much of a part in the deals that have just been extended, Yaya, Aguero.. can’t imagine the terms would change much there.
    So there is a possibility of a situation where some have to win to get what they think they deserve, while others just have to be there to earn their full payment.
    It will take time to get all the players on PRP type contracts and those already on good deals which don’t have that element are likely to resist it…. unless the bonus system makes it very unlikely that they could end up worse off.
    That’s not really the idea, the idea is to encourage players to give their all, all the time. So the target level required to achieve full bonus needs to be set high.

    You’re right of course bellers, if it were easy to run a PL club with a £300m a year turnover we’d all be doing it Cool

    It does remind me of the basic tenets of journalism red top style though. First agitate for change on the grounds that the current system isn’t fair/sensible/equitable/sustainable or whatever and then once the changes are achieved, ask probing questions seeking to expose the shortcomings of the new system and how it disadvantages those who were doing best from the old system.

    Retrospective change isn’t an option, legally or morally, so changes in policy have to reflect the current climate and affect newcomers and re-contracters only. My understanding is that Yaya’s deal reflected the new system but took into account the remaning part of his current deal.

    Alph

  10. Possible explaination of the Pellegrini delay.
    Malaga haven’t paid him for 2 Months, if it goes to 3 he can walk away.
    This gets rid of all the compensation situation and could be a good thing for all concerned.

    Re the wage restructuring.
    This was mooted a while back that we would move towards performance related bonuses, PRP, making up a higher proportion of pay than before.
    This, if done correctly, could be a very good thing.
    However, I doubt it will play much of a part in the deals that have just been extended, Yaya, Aguero.. can’t imagine the terms would change much there.
    So there is a possibility of a situation where some have to win to get what they think they deserve, while others just have to be there to earn their full payment.
    It will take time to get all the players on PRP type contracts and those already on good deals which don’t have that element are likely to resist it…. unless the bonus system makes it very unlikely that they could end up worse off.
    That’s not really the idea, the idea is to encourage players to give their all, all the time. So the target level required to achieve full bonus needs to be set high.

  11. This is probably a simplistic view of thing Slasher/Berko et al, but when I first saw the Donnie Belles story my understanding was that the FA were having a big shakeup in the women’s game, reorganising the leagues according to a pr-published set of criteria aimed at making the standard of the game both on and off the field more professional to meet the growth in interest, support and sponsorship in the women’s game which has sen participation at all levels on the increase.

    The FA invited applications to join the new set up and they selected according to the criteria. All City Ladies did was apply with their business plan and get accepted.

    As usual the FA have been crassly incompetent. When these sort of changes take place there should always be a meritocracy involved and to relegate a side due to a change of rules, imposed as far as I can see by administrators, is crass incompetence which should be the story. Of course, it’s a better story to write that mega rich City steal the bread from the poor kids mouths.

    AS Slasher suggests there are ways to have achieved the FA aims without such obvious injustice. Most organisations do this sort of thing by only promoting teams that comply with the new rules and giving those existing teams that do not comply an extended period to do so.

    Ah well, where would we be with our sige mentality if the bastards were always nice to us eh?
    Shock Thinking Cool

    Alph

  12. berkozboy:
    Ruining lasses footie as well.

    http://dailym.ai/12HUFC8 Manchester City cash muscles into ladies’ game as Doncaster Belles are booted out of league (even… #MailOnline

    What a pathetic paper The Daily Fail is…………………They ran this story last month and I replied as follows
    Last week I was wondering why Doncaster belles had been demoted
    .Not knowing all the fact, presentation etc.(which all clubs had a chance to put their case) I think that the FA could have made the WSL have
    10 teams – which would have kept Donny in plus the winners of the Prem. league – Sunderland, last two seasons, and City(who must have put in a good case in their presentation.
    The FA would not then have had this uproar. Just my opinion.-IMHO.
    By throwing out Doncaster(who were founder members) and putting in City – it gives the impression to a lot of people that finance had come into it. Just another stick to beat City with by people not knowing all the facts.
    Why not the bottom club, whoever they are, be relegated – and Sunderland could have been promoted ?

    Later I researched some more and found that Liverpool were bottom of the WSLleague last season and Sunderland were top of theWPL league in which City Ladies finished fourth. The FA are to blame for this but the impression given by lazy journos. is that it is City’s fault.This is wrong…….B*stards……

  13. The Kippax Street Kid: I’m led to believe both Fernandinho & Navas are on less than £100K/week. Yes, the transfer fees are comparable, but are the players?

    I understand that this is correct and is the beginning of the new wage structure brought in by the Barca Twins which has a basic wage much lower than the recent past but with considerable bonuses for success in the competitions which would still mean players could earn sky high money if they and the team are successful.

    My apologies to bellers by the way. I inadvertantly accused him of being a ‘glass half full wallah’ when he is, of course, as we all know, of the ‘glass half empty’ persuasion’ Grin

    Alph

  14. Alphonso: During the campaign to get our feet under that top table that was how it had to be, nobody with any profile was coming to City without Euro football without a huge age and nobody was selling to us without a big fee.

    In a nutshell that’s it Alph. Can’t see us paying £10m for a Wayne Bridge + £100K/week wages again. Yet that’s the sort of crazy money we were held to ransom for by agents, players & selling clubs.

    £24m for Les
    £15m for Kolo
    £26m for Jimmy
    £14m for Bellamy
    etc,etc,etc. All of whom were on £100K+/week

    These were fees paid to get us out of relegation trouble in Season1 with ADUG and to bring us into contention with the Sky 4 cartel.
    I’m led to believe both Fernandinho & Navas are on less than £100K/week. Yes, the transfer fees are comparable, but are the players?

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